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Hi George,
Steve Sullivan from Network Time Foundation replying to your message RE: the NTP Pool.
I first want to clarify some of the confusion over relationships of the organizations you mention, as it is useful to understand the lay of the land. NTP.org is actually the original David Mills/UDEL website that the NTP Pool Project ran under when Dave Mills, NTP Inventor, was still very active in the project. He is not pretty much retired, and the ntp.org site will eventually be melded into https://support.ntp.org, the NTP Project support wiki hosted by our 501c3 nonprofit organization, Network Time Foundation. Obviously, you found NTF at https://www.nwtime.org/. We are more focused on fundraising for NTP, LinuxPTP, General Timestamp API, and other time/sync Open Source Software projects. We also provide infrastructure to the OSS projects, but NOT to the NTP Pool Project.
The NTP Pool Project is an independently operated project with its own all-volunteer server operators. We do help each other out for the betterment the NTP community, but the relationship is more of a collaboration. However, NTF owns the domain the NTP Pool uses, so whois may have sent you in our direction.
After speaking with a few of the NTP Pool Project volunteers RE your message, it was pointed out that pool.ntp.org: How do I setup NTP to use the pool? could be very helpful for deciding on when the pool is appropriate for use. I was also referred to pool.ntp.org: the internet cluster of ntp servers for the TOS of the NTP Pool. Typically, if this is mission critical, lives depend on it, or legislation drives requirements for traceability, a vendor would want to work with NIST or another top tier time provider to get authenticated time sources. An organization could also turn up its own refclock or use a GPS receiver for same.
TOR is a free, open source anonymization service. Anyone can connect and use it, anyone can offer to be an endpoint. Not everyone wants to be tracked by big brother, and its purpose is no different than all the paid VPN / proxy services that are also available. The NTP Pool is a volunteer service that provides time FREE to any individual that wants to use it. The Pool also operates on the premise that MORE NTP in more geographic locations will improve time for all time consumers. Vendors however should NOT use the generic Zones, and should apply to have their own Vendor Zone to help absorb the potential load a manufacturer throws at the pool, both of which are explained here on the NTP Pool Project website: pool.ntp.org: The NTP Pool for vendors. We deal with this being missed quite often, and it really hurts the pool when a vendor sends millions of units hard-coded to use the standard pool.ntp.org names as a default configuration. Its all about load balancing and BW for the pool, both of which cost real $$$$.
I hope that is somewhat helpful to you. Also, have you registered on Network Time Foundation’s support wiki at https://support.ntp.org and on any of the NTP Mailing lists on https://lists.ntp.org/listinfo? Additionally, you may wish to connect with the NTP Pool directly via the links posted on pool.ntp.org: NTP Pool mailing lists.
Also, if your employer is seeking sponsorship opportunities for the NTP Project, LinuxPTP, Network Time Security, and the NTP Pool project, please have them contact me. Since we are a fundraising organization, we are able to take donations and NTF Membership dues and distribute the funding accordingly to the projects we support.
Please feel free to reach out to me with any other questions.
Kind regards,
Steve Sullivan
Network Time Foundation, Inc.
www.nwtime.org
949-423-6901