# Vn.pool.ntp.org is down!

**URL:** <https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212>\
**Category:** Server operators\
**Tags:** monitoring\
**Created:** [January 31, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212 "2024-01-31T08:54:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![iotdaiviet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3d9bf3/32.png) [@iotdaiviet](https://community.ntppool.org/u/iotdaiviet)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/1 "2024-01-31T08:54:42Z")

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Dear admin @ask ,

Could you help me that why [vn.pool.ntp.org](http://vn.pool.ntp.org) was disconnected ?

Thanks and best regards,

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**Author:** ![bjh21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.ntppool.org/bjh21/32/1181_2.png) [@bjh21](https://community.ntppool.org/u/bjh21)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/2 "2024-01-31T11:42:52Z")

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`vn.pool.ntp.org` contains only servers in Vietnam, and as of today the NTP Pool has no servers left in Vietnam: [pool.ntp.org: NTP Servers in Vietnam, vn.pool.ntp.org](https://www.ntppool.org/zone/vn). As that page says, if you’re in Vietnam you’re probably better off using `asia.pool.ntp.org` or just `pool.ntp.org`.

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**Author:** ![iotdaiviet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3d9bf3/32.png) [@iotdaiviet](https://community.ntppool.org/u/iotdaiviet)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/3 "2024-01-31T12:17:05Z")

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Could you reopen again in this week ? My server is down because that is not set time via this vn ntp :((, and I cannot connect server to update new ntp.

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**Author:** ![Badeand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c2a13f/32.png) [@Badeand](https://community.ntppool.org/u/Badeand)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/4 "2024-01-31T14:17:20Z")

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The ntp servers are run by volunteers, random internet strangers. I don’t know who was running the servers in Vietnam previously, but these servers are no longer available.

You can’t use the Vietnamese servers any more, you have to change it to Asia.

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**Author:** ![Bas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.ntppool.org/bas/32/465_2.png) [@Bas](https://community.ntppool.org/u/Bas)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/5 "2024-01-31T16:23:54Z")

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Why would you even want to connect to a local-pool?

The is no need to do so unless a specific reason.

For timekeeping it doesn’t matter if you access local or just the worldwide pool, as it will select the best servers for your request anyway.

I keep telling people, just go with [pool.ntp.org](http://pool.ntp.org) then you are allways sure you get the right time from a good server (mostly) near you.

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**Author:** ![NTPman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.ntppool.org/ntpman/32/450_2.png) [@NTPman](https://community.ntppool.org/u/NTPman)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/6 "2024-01-31T20:00:40Z")

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> [@Bas](#):
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> I keep telling people, just go with [pool.ntp.org](http://pool.ntp.org) then you are allways sure you get the right time from a good server (mostly) near you.

It is even better to use [2.pool.ntp.org](http://2.pool.ntp.org), as it has IPv6 servers included.

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**Author:** ![Bas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.ntppool.org/bas/32/465_2.png) [@Bas](https://community.ntppool.org/u/Bas)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/7 "2024-02-01T15:14:57Z")

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You are quite right, I stand corrected…as it’s a mixed pool:

```auto
bas@workstation:~$ nslookup 2.pool.ntp.org 1.1.1.1
Server: 1.1.1.1
Address:	1.1.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:	2.pool.ntp.org
Address: 109.68.160.220
Name:	2.pool.ntp.org
Address: 185.153.41.4
Name:	2.pool.ntp.org
Address: 162.159.200.1
Name:	2.pool.ntp.org
Address: 185.89.20.5
Name:	2.pool.ntp.org
Address: 2606:4700:f1::123
Name:	2.pool.ntp.org
Address: 2a04:6480:101::220
Name:	2.pool.ntp.org
Address: 2a0e:f780:0:100::15
Name:	2.pool.ntp.org
Address: 2a0e:f780:0:400::35

```

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**Author:** ![PoolMUC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.ntppool.org/poolmuc/32/1473_2.png) [@PoolMUC](https://community.ntppool.org/u/PoolMUC)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/8 "2024-02-06T11:16:40Z")

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> [@Bas](#):
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> I keep telling people, just go with [pool.ntp.org](http://pool.ntp.org) then you are allways sure you get the right time from a good server (mostly) near you.

Hmm, I venture to posit that most users of the pool don’t delve to such a depth into the inner workings of the pool, e.g., by following evolving discussions across multiple threads and topics in this forum, that they would realize this. Rather, the majority of users who even choose to manually configure their clients will likely follow the guidance on the [Use The Pool](https://www.ntppool.org/en/use.html) pages in their respective language. The English version says that the non-regionalized zones will give best results for most users. It neutrally mentions the existence of regionalized zones, adding the caveat that some of those zones may have only few, or no servers at all in them. Not sure how many casual users will fully appreciate the potential ramifications of that hint vs. the potential appeal of “closer is better” inherent to the regionalized zones.

More crucial, however, is that at least some of the non-English versions of that page even explicitly suggest that better results will be achieved by using the continental zones, and even better results with the country zones (despite the caveat mentioned previously).

I venture to posit that the number of users following the guidance on the pool’s web pages far surpasses the number of ordinary users finding their way into the forum, or reachable by word-of-mouth.

So an arguably more effective way to address this would be to update the instructions on the web pages in the various languages, hoping any proposed updates actually make it to the live pages (unlike the long pending update to recommend use of the `pool` directive instead of the `server` directive).

A while back, @ask mentioned that he is considering doing away with the geographical zones entirely, at least on a functional level. I don’t recall (and _ad hoc_ did not find again) what steps would be needed to make that happen, whether some improvements are still needed in the system before that can happen, or whether it was mostly about how to best manage the transition. In the latter case, more explicitly recommending against use of the geographical zones on the instructions pages could be a first step without requiring changes to the pool implementation itself.

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**Author:** ![Coelacanthus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.ntppool.org/coelacanthus/32/1595_2.png) [@Coelacanthus](https://community.ntppool.org/u/Coelacanthus)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/9 "2024-02-10T13:32:27Z")

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[cn.pool.ntp.org](http://cn.pool.ntp.org) faces the same problem over and over again.

> [@CN pool collapse a few hours every day](https://community.ntppool.org/t/cn-pool-collapse-a-few-hours-every-day/3225):
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> Hello. Im back, I was very active about 5 years ago trying to get enough servers for the CN pool. An for a few years it was working. I still have 8 ntp servers in pool and alot better hardware than before. But during peak hours, that isnt enough. Most likely, the demand is also higher in 2024. And the scoring system doesnt take into count that the CN zone is underserved and when my servers gets scores below 10 and are kicked out. And the rest will take the hit. And get kicked out. And…

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**Author:** ![HAHAHAHA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.ntppool.org/hahahaha/32/2475_2.png) [@HAHAHAHA](https://community.ntppool.org/u/HAHAHAHA)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 11:34am UTC](https://community.ntppool.org/t/vn-pool-ntp-org-is-down/3212/10 "2024-02-11T11:34:01Z")

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use the global pool instead:

[pool.ntp.org](http://pool.ntp.org)
